Living the Inner and Outer Worlds
with Drunvalo Melchizedek
New York - November 1, 1998
Transcript: Question and Answers
Q5: Do you know anything of the prophecies that a time portal will open
to us
from the Andromedan Galaxy?
Drunvalo : Yes, I agree, but I would use different terminology. What is
happening here is not just happening only here, it is HAPPENING
EVERYWHERE. It
is a full universal phenomenon. However, this place, Earth, appears to be
the
catalyst. That is why there is so much attention on this particular place.
It probably isn't important for most people to communicate on those levels.
Even though I am aware that there are all those charges happening, my main
concern now is what is happening on Earth. My instructions when I came here
were very, very clear - to move within the solar system and not to expand
beyond it or go deeper into it. It really comes right down to just the Earth,
to be able to go from wherever you are now to the very next step on the 4th
dimensional level, which is not easy. It is a big step. It's one of those
places that once you get below it, it's hard to get back up there. It is like
going up the Grand Gallery to the King's Chamber, there are all those little
steps. The King's Chamber in terms of sacred geometry represents the
particular level of consciousness that we are in, but that last step is about
that high, about 3 to 3.5 feet high. It is one big step to reach the floor of
the King's Chamber.
So my interest is not so much what is going on in the galaxy and all the
various levels, because that aspect of it, at this point, is really in perfect
harmony. We are moving perfectly. There are very few problems. A lot of people
are focusing on what the Grays and different ET races are doing, but the truth
is that the galaxy and all other areas of life have come together and are now
trying to help. And just as your body has cells, which are working for you,
the galaxy is alive and conscious and working engendering love.
There is very little disharmony in the galaxy, or the rest of life. So my
focus is the Earth, going from here to the next step. So I am not going to get
into all those other things.
What happened on December 14, 1997 is pretty significant. We just had a gamma
ray blast from a little area about the size of Texas in deep space about 12
billion light years away. It's got everybody in science wondering what is
going on. Here was a blast of energy that, based on E=MC squared, would have
required all the mass of the universe to create it. It was equivalent to
1,000th of a second after the big bang.
That was not supposed to happen. We don't know anything about this kind of
phenomena. And since then there were 2,000 or more of these explosions that
took place.
And then we just had this another new one that came in with the Magna Star on
August 27th. Suddenly a brand new object appears in the sky that we never saw
before producing huge amount of magnetic energy, and those were also way off
the scale of our scientific knowledge.
Consciousness and energy are interrelated. There is something going on now
that is really beyond our imagination. We can't tie them down to certain terms
and words but what is about to happen, is that every level of consciousness is
about to go beyond itself into something greater than the appearance. A new
birth, a new universal birth is about to happen.
So if you are functioning on these levels, (higher universal consciousness)
that's good, but for most people in the world, it won't really help them,
unless they are called directly into that area of awareness. Most people are
just trying to figure out how they can make this change in their lives and to
raise kids at the same time.
Question : The Masters are saying that we all have a chance to make
the shift to the fourth dimension and there are so many consequences if we
don't. They have talked about a rescue operation.
Drunvalo : I am aware that we almost didn't make it, but from my way
of seeing now, we have all made it through; we will make it through. A rescue
operation has already happened within our consciousness.
Question : This is a little mundane after that. Sacred geometry is
based on the circle which is really an idealized form which doesn't exist in
nature, what we see around us is really irregularity.
Drunvalo : The inaccuracies are perfect. If you tie the Fibonnaci
sequences into these inaccuracies you'll see for example that the square that
goes around the body is not a perfect square. It is 1/10,000th of an inch off.
But if you tie that into the Fibonnaci sequence you see that it is the
difference. The Fibonnaci sequence is not perfect except unto itself, it never
ever perfectly reaches the phi ratio. It asymptotically approaches the phi
ratio as a limit, it keeps getting closer and closer, and closer but it never
reaches it. The solution is that life has found a way to attempt to create
this ideal structure that is not perfectly aligned. And it is not supposed to
be.
Question : Is there something to explain irregularity?
Drunvalo : Have you seen the Flower of Life video tapes when I talk
about consciousness with the various circles and squares? When you start
looking at those, each one of them is not perfect. As they get bigger and
bigger and bigger, they get closer and closer to that perfect ratio between
the circle and the square. If we went on for eternity maybe eventually we
would reach it. To me it's as if God said, "Create with the Phi ratio." But we
don't know how, so we found a way that produces this seemingly imperfect
world. The Earth is not round. It is 26 miles higher at the equator because
the water bulges out on it. This is true of almost anything.
Question : So you are saying that our minds are creating an
approximation of some ideal form?
Drunvalo : Yes, our minds using the sacred geometry. There are
perfect forms if you wanted to use them, like the golden mean for example,
which does this perfection thing, but we don't know how to apply them to life.
Nobody has ever figured it out. It's okay; we are still going to make it
anyway.
Question : Can you tell me if the Urantia Papers are part of this so
called "end times"?
Drunvalo : The Urantia Book was written by the angelic realms from
their point of view. In relativity you can look at a single event and it will
change depending on your geographical location. For example, if you have a car
driving across the state right now, at a constant rate of speed, totally
smooth, not accelerating and there was a child in the back seat and he had a
ball in his hand and throws it up in the air. Assume he has one-way windows
and cannot see out. Well, for him the ball goes straight up and straight down.
That's his reality. But for you guys out there watching just the ball go by,
you don't see that at all. You see it move in a parabola. So depending on
where you are when you perceive something, you see something totally
different. This is the nature of the reality we're in.
The angelic realms perceive the reality from their point of view. And from
their point of view of what they wrote in the Urantia Book, I believe it is
their truth. That's their way of seeing and explaining what has happened. A
human can use that, can see through their eyes and use that as a means of
structuring their reality of how things are. And it works great.
Though if you were to have someone else who perceives things from a different
point of view in a different way, they may actually see it differently and use
different words. It's kind of the same thing with different religions. They're
all talking about these different states of consciousness etc., using
different words for it, but it's still the same thing. So I think it is a very
legitimate book, and I think it is very good.
Question : Can you elaborate a little on the grid?
Drunvalo : In order to have a life form on a planet, it can't exist
and evolve on that planet unless there is a geometrical, electro-magnetic grid
that stretches around the entire planet that is associated with that
consciousness level. They are tied together. So every bug, every plant, every
tree of a certain species has its own grid, and its own geometry's. Humans
have three different grids up there. So there are three different kinds of
humans in the world; totally different who see things completely differently.
A long time ago we were in a very specific grid, and when we fell, that grid
was destroyed. We fell down to here, this level of consciousness, and then we
reconstructed another one to survive and to be here. For the last 13,000 years
the Great White Brotherhood has been working together with the 72 orders to
re-establish the first level of this grid. It can't go all the way back up. It
can't do that in a single jump; it's too much.
What they are calling it now is Christ consciousness. It's the first step.
There are many levels of Christ consciousness. It is not just one, there are
many levels and interpretations of this was of seeing. So they have been
working to reconstruct this grid.
This grid is now completed. If there is anything left to do I am not sure what
it would be. In fact, the best I can tell and everything I am being told is
that planetary grid levels are completely ready for the Earth's ascension. We
can make this consciousness jump right now. There is nothing left to do. It's
ready to go. We haven't yet; and so it's all a matter of timing at this point.
So now that the grid is completed, it is very easy from here on out.
This is the basic outer structure of the grid that's around the earth. It's a
dodecahedron stellated with these points around it. So it's a combination of
the icosa-, dodecahedron. This is the one we are moving into. The Russians
figured this out in about 1950 or so. America was a little slower.
There was another grid, which is one that most people are using in the world
right now which is based on triangles and squares. That's an interesting one
for if you map it on the surface of the earth, for some reason all the
military bases are at the nodal points. During the Cold War they knew that
whoever controlled that grid controlled human consciousness and that went on
for a long time. The military is going through a huge enlightenment themselves
right now, and it's really good. They are changing fast and in a very healthy
way. I'm feeling good about what I'm hearing from them right now.
These two shapes, by the way, are the basis of the human DNA. The DNA molecule
is nothing but an icosa- dodeca- relationship. You can see it as a rotating
cube if you wish, rotating at 72-degree angles. But this is more accurate.
What we actually have around the earth right now is a DNA molecule.
Interestingly enough NASA just discovered that the molten iron core of the
earth that was understood as a big hot iron sphere inside the earth has
changed shape. It's now a pentagonal dodecahedron. If you want to study these
shapes, and you want to study the DNA look into the I Ching. The 64 changes of
the I Ching are an exact, perfect replica of the DNA. It is flawless.
Question : Can you describe the changes in the consciousness toward
the earth by the military, especially nuclear war. Did it affect the decision
not to go into Iraq the last time?
Drunvalo : It's very complex. The inner world of the Earth's
consciousness is extremely complex. There is so much going on. We are able to
move even into a different future at this point. We have been able to do this
for some time now. The military can identify whom the players are that are
going to make the big changes in our future. They can focus on them, from
their point of view, to try to initiate change so that things will alter the
future in a positive manner. All this is going on. They're messing around with
the very Akashic records themselves.
The military is doing all kinds of reality testing. The military is not going
to admit to any of this stuff, but it's there. There are many people working
with mother Earth. The native peoples of the world, all over the world, are
connected to her and understand her. They know her. They know who she is. They
know her pain. They know her joys. And they love her. There is a lot being
done. There are many people now who also love her and are finding ways to
allow her to use us to heal the world.
At the last part of this workshop you are going to see what we mean when we
get into the meditation aspects. There is a way where we can connect so
strongly with Mother Earth that we can actually make changes to the very
future of this planet. We haven't even talked about many of these things.
Again, this is just an introductory evening.
In terms of these estimates we are using for pollution and the R2 units that
are being used around the world, the only reason I even got interested in this
in the first place is because they are psychotronic in nature. Psychotronic
means that it is an instrument that only works when the mind connects with it.
Dowsing rods, for example are psychotronic. A dowsing rod in nothing but a
stick on the ground or a piece of metal, but when it's in the hands of a
understanding person, the person and the dowsing rod becomes the instrument.
With all psychotronic instruments, once you learn how they are used and how
they work, you can throw them away. You can do the same work without them. You
don't need dowsing rods once you know how to use them, you just know. You
don't need a pendulum. If you want to know the answer you just write it down.
That's true, I believe, with all psychotronic instruments.
The R2s were psychotronic and once we figured out how they were clearing the
pollution we applied it to human consciousness. The R-2's do work. They
absolutely work. They're amazing! Once we saw how it worked, then we began to
see if we could do it without them, and we can! Personally I've demonstrated
six times to groups around the world, but my guidance will not let me continue
to do it because they're concerned that people will think that I can do it,
and they can't.
I've gone into Mexico City with 40 witnesses, when you couldn't even see three
city blocks. It was a big brown dome. You couldn't see any of the sky. Just
using the same energies that the R2s use, which are basically coils based on a
Merkaba (you've got the real thing around your body), and just running the
vibration through our human energy fields, the same geometry's that were used
to activate those coils, just standing there a blue hole opens up and you can
just watch this pollution retreat. It went back about two miles, forming a
perfectly blue sky, clear air, clean and fresh to breathe and this wall all
the way around. We held this opening there for three hours and fifteen
minutes. The moment we stopped the vibration through the meditation, this wall
came rushing back toward us and surrounded us with the air pollution. We did
this in Mexico, Australia, England and Holland.
Anyone can do this. This is what we used to teach in the Earth-Sky Workshop,
though the direction of the Earth-Sky has changed somewhat now. Human
potential is great. It's enormous; it's huge. We're like this powerful engine
running on one cylinder. We're only using a small portion of our brain on one
side of us. We're only functioning on 20 of the 64 codons in our DNA. Codons
are like application programs in a computer. We're sort of limping along. If
we align with the earth, the sun and with all life, and allow the presence of
God to come into us and use us, anything is possible. All of our problems
could be over with very quickly. Let's see what happens here. I think it's
going to go very well.
Question : There is a lot of information out there right now and we
have to use discernment to figure out what is right for us. I was wondering
about the other world beings out there, talk of mass landings and that they
are ready to help us when we are ready to accept them. I was wondering what
your take is on that subject?
Drunvalo : It's not real straightforward and simple. If a ship
(space ship) were to land here right now I would not go with them because it
took me a long time to get here in the first place. It's really sort of a
personal thing. There are those who wish to be removed from this pending
ordeal, but the highest level is to organically move through it without
external help, for us to figure out how to make this change and to move
consciously through these dimensions without any external help.
We do not need ships; the Merkaba (human light body) will do all of this for
us. If on the other hand you feel you need this external help and so you
manifest a ship and get on it and take off, it's okay. You're still going to
have your problems. Your emotional, mental problems are not just going to go
away. One way or another you're going to have to deal with this stuff that's
inside of us that we have developed over thousands of years. It's working
through our problems within us that brings us to clarity and to understanding.
It's really more complex than that, but it's okay. People will manifest what
they wish.
Let me just add something to this for the group. We are creating our world
>from minute to minute. You've heard this a lot, but you may not have known
how much. You are really creating the most distant star and everything else,
every time you take a breath. We can look at this on a worldwide basis, and we
can look at it from the new 20th century religion called science..., which is
what science is - a religion. It's a belief pattern - it's a particular way of
believing what we think is true. We really believe in science; we really do.
We believe more in this one than we believed in the Catholic Church and other
religions.
What happened to science? Science was going along and in the 50's or so, the
mathematics said that if this new science was true, then there had to be these
objects (quasars) way out on the edge of space billions of light years away or
the new science would have to be wrong. So they started looking for quasars
but nobody could find one. Finally, one day, one person found a quasar and
everybody jumped up and down and said, "Wow, look it's really there". The next
day everyone was finding them all over the place, quasars everywhere.
Then, as our mathematical theories kept progressing, we came up with the super
string theory that some very strong and very powerful people begin to believe
in. But if this new theory was true, there had to be these blue lines running
through space. Nobody ever saw a blue line running through space; they didn't
exist. Finally one day one scientist found a blue line running through space.
The next day scientists everywhere found blue lines everywhere. This is how
creation works. We dream it up.
This new one is an interesting one with the Magna star. It popped out of
nowhere. All of a sudden here is a magna star. All the Magna star is, is a
pulsestar, except it is rotating extremely fast - two hundred times a second
or some impossible amount like that - producing this huge magnetic field.
We could keep giving examples but you'll find that if we want something, we
are going to make it happen if we believe it enough. We do this in little ways
and in our every day lives and in really big ways also. As we really come
together in the world and have a common dream, a common vision, we'll make our
dream happen.
I think there will be this time when we all will come together in this world;
it is part of the Hopi prophecy. It's one of the last parts of the prophecy.
Robert Ghost Wolf didn't get into the last part of the prophecy. He got into
the middle part where everything was doom and gloom, everything was falling
apart; it was horrible and ugly and all this stuff was happening, but at the
very end, all of a sudden, the entire world goes clear of all pollution - the
water, the skies, the oceans - everything goes clean and clear. The next day
the whole world falls in love with each other. There is this beautiful unity
that takes place. We then move in love to the next world. This is what the
Hopi say. (applause)
We are going to make this change. I know we are. For me it is past tense. I
know we are going to get there, but still we have to live it. It comes down to
really trusting in yourself and believing in yourself, no matter if you see
mountains going up and down. Just stay centered, and believe in God and
yourself. Everything is fine.
Question : Earlier you described how the pranic energy passes over
the pineal and changes consciousness. I read that it would be beneficial to
raise your consciousness to the pineal and I am wondering what effect it would
have on the Merkaba field?
Drunvalo : This is a technical question on the Merkaba that not
everybody here is going to understand. The reason that we have moved the
Merkaba into this chakra right here (heart chakra just above the sternum) is
because that is where the Earth is now headed. The Earth right now is at the
navel in this spot right here, as a planet. We're about to go here (heart
chakra), but we're not going to stop there as we are going to keep going up
moving to levels way above the head. And we are going to move very quickly at
one point. This motion (the change from the navel to the heart) for many
people who have done years of meditation may feel that there is much more in
the higher chakras; why stay down here? But it is simply because that's how
the Earth is moving at this time. My job again is not to go beyond the solar
system or the Earth, but to move with Mother Earth in this change.
There are people who are talking about going up to the higher planes like
that. You can use those higher ones with the Merkaba as long as your breathing
is not established on those levels. If it is, it is still not bad or wrong,
but to do that you better have a real good permission from your higher self.
Because unless there is a real purpose or reason for doing that then you're
not in alignment with the Earth.
I would never recommend that or suggest that to anyone, but if it comes from
within you, not if someone tells you to do it, or says it's a good idea, but
if in your meditations with your higher self, your higher self says this is
what you should do, then okay.
Anytime you change where the two primal flows of energy meet within you, or
you change the speed ratios, it will affect the nature of your consciousness
and the direction that your spirit is headed. That's what everybody (the ETs)
out there is studying, no matter what they look like or how big their heads
are, they are all studying one thing and that's Merkaba (Light Body) Science.
Because that is the creation pattern of the entire universe, and there are
hundreds of thousands of consciousness levels possible that are known. Each
one, each consciousness level, once you get into that Merkaba if you look out
through your eyes, if you have eyes, the entire world of creation is
different. It's not the same. So the study of all consciousness levels is the
primary focus in existence.
Question : Is there still a purpose for us to continue breathing in
the group Merkaba?
Drunvalo : Only if you feel there is a need to keep doing it,
because at this point, as best I can tell, there is not a reason to. If your
inner guidance tells you to keep doing it, then keep doing it. You served this
huge purpose in life for the Earth, because you gave the Earth a vibration she
needed in order to activate her own Merkaba. Her Merkaba is now functioning
perfect. It's working perfectly. The real secret purpose behind the tri-phase
was to bring the Earth into a higher awareness and to activate her Merkaba.
It's okay; you can keep working in that way if you so desire, but it's also
okay not to do it and to revert back to a single Merkaba field.
Question : Sometimes we feel that our group Merkaba magnifies and
amplifies negative emotional problems.
Drunvalo : It does. (Laughter)
Question continued: We've been going through a lot of emotional
upheaval in our lives and our families. After we go through it and come back
together and have the Merkaba ground out and cleans out and settles out,
sometimes we get a clue that, whatever particular problem it is that we were
working on, was seeded in the grid, and we are trying to guess what was going
on.
Drunvalo : I don't think so; it's just that the tri-phase is a huge
Merkaba field. The group Merkaba has a huge Merkaba field. When two people are
breathing together in a certain way, it creates wheels within wheels; it is
Merkaba's within Merkaba's within Merkaba's within Merkaba's. The final one
has a distance across it of 1.6 million miles. It encloses the earth. It is a
very powerful field.
The military went crazy with this. Your Merkaba fields show up on their
screens so they can see where you are. But when the tri-phase goes off it is
like an atomic bomb going off; it's so huge. Those people they tracked very
carefully for a long time, because you were basically a threat to national
security. Two people in a tri-phase are more powerful than the entire world's
military arsenal.
Question : What can we do about male-female dynamics compared with
the dynamics between the sun and earth?
Drunvalo : Well, the balance between the sun and the earth has been
out of whack for some time now. Sun has shifted its axis; the earth is still
on a different plane. We have not changed orbit yet, which we will. We'll go
into a new orbit. This will take about 15 years and then come back into the
new plane orbit, and that is when the balance on the outer levels of our
existence will come back into harmony. There is a reason for it being like
this right now. But it is hard because when males and females talk to each
other there is a certain distortion in the communication in case you haven't
noticed that. (Laughter)
When the male says something to a female, she literally hears something
different, and when she talks back to the male, he hears something different.
Female to female or male to male communication is pretty good, but across
genders there is a major distortion and it's been there for over 20 years now.
It doesn't make things easier, but it's also given us the opportunity to grow
very quickly, to work through a lot of karmic patterns and stuff. I'm sure
most of you who are married or in relationships know exactly what I mean -
processing all the time. That's good. We're just moving fast, but we're
bringing our karmic patterns into balance very, very quickly.
Understanding that we are in a distorted field right now helps. But it just
takes a lot of patience. Accepting that it is not easy now helps. Until the
universe, and specifically the solar system, realigns, human relationships
will not be easy, and yet this unusual situation gives us the chance to make
changes very quickly.
